the glasses episode of sienfeld

Helgi · 09-20-2007

{Jerry wears improper glasses (to decieve)=A}
Lloyd Braun in order for him (to appear sane)=B \ (to himself)=C
{By wearing the improper glasses he (is decieved)=1\A}
not recognizing George, making him (to appear not sane)=1/B \ (to another)=1\C

if Lloyd Braun actually is sane he is still being decieved because Jerry's trick was to convince Lloyd Braun that he really does wear glasses, and that is a deception, even if Jerry is only decieving him to convince him of the truth. Lloyd's belief in Jerry wearing glasses and his belief in his own sanity are two separate beliefs, even if one is the result of the other.
If anyone has the sienfeld episodes on DVD they should forward outlines of the plots on this forum. This one doesn't present the entire scope of the episode, but it points out the repetition of diametric opposition used in the plot. I think it would be an instructive resource for us students. I don't have the DVD's so I have to wait for the farce like episodes to air.
http://www.geocities.com/estreightof...et/riddle.html

George was Henry in this episode, and it's official title is The Gum episode

Helgi · 09-22-2007

when Lloyd says, "Am I crazy, or does Jerry not wear glasses?"
Kramer says "You're not crazy, Jerry does wear glasses." The character of Kramer isn't making a joke, but I think it's almost sure that the author meant to make a joke here because the audience can be heard responding.
http://www.geocities.com/estreightof...et/riddle.html

Escape · 09-22-2007

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Originally Posted by Helgi

when Lloyd says, "Am I crazy, or does Jerry not wear glasses?"
Kramer says "You're not crazy, Jerry does wear glasses." The character of Kramer isn't making a joke, but I think it's almost sure that the author meant to make a joke here because the audience can be heard responding.
http://www.geocities.com/estreightof...et/riddle.html

Well I laughed because of Kramer. Just his goofy personality helps that line in being funny. I suppose if i dig deep I'm laughing at his awkward struggle to try to assist his buddy there to believe he's sane since he did just come out of the mental institution.

And that hot dog scene was hilarious. (I just needed to say that

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Helgi · 09-22-2007

yeah, Kramer always mets himself up in wierd causes, like when he assumes responsability for newman at his trial, saying "It's alright your honor, he's in my custody." And he took charge even of Bette Middler.
I guess it's part of his Kramisma.

Escape · 09-22-2007

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Originally Posted by Helgi

yeah, Kramer always mets himself up in wierd causes, like when he assumes responsability for newman at his trial, saying "It's alright your honor, he's in my custody." And he took charge even of Bette Middler.
I guess it's part of his Kramisma.

Wasn't that trial episode the 'Yo Yo Ma' scene where he blurted it out of the blue after that kick in the head he got from the crazy dude?

Helgi · 09-23-2007

I think so, but Newman went to court a few times. I remember that newman traded his helmet to Kramer for a radar detector that didn't work, and that Kramer survived Joe's kick by the helmet. Kramer got kicked in the head at the end of the episode after the trial, I bet, saying yo yo ma in the next episode. I remember he came into the coffee shop with his busted helmet, and that's how they end lots of the episodes is at the coffee shop. I think they went to court in the episode of the exchange, but he didn't start saying yo yo till the next episode.